FFXIV Wiki:Fishing data revamp
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- Project description
- Updating all fishing data across the wiki.
- Status
- In Progress
- Members
- OnyxVindicator (talk), Bagelchips (talk), Hubry (talk), Skissors-Wolf (talk), Vchiru (talk)
- Discussion
- Talk page, Discord
Summary
- This project is to clean up and standardize Fishing data so that it can be viewed in a reasonable and accurate manner, and also have semantic data populated for use on other pages.
- The data will be set up similar to the Miner/Botanist pages, such that most of the Fish data exists on the Fish pages but the location availability will be on the Fishing Log pages (mirroring MIN/BTN's setup on Area pages).
- Work in earnest is planned for 7.5x, but may happen sooner.
- OnyxVindicator is the primary contact person for this project.
To-Dos
- Find good sources for the data elements listed in later sections
- Teamcraft's Allagan Reports data for fishing, contains most of the manual data that can't be datamined (need to source intuition duration from elsewhere though, probably Carby)
- Same data for spearfishing
- Carby data (*mostly* the same as TC but does not contain most common fish, and recommends worse baits in many places)
- Tyo'to Tayuun's ocean fishing spreadsheet
- Tracky data for desynthesis
- Game sheets: FishParameter, FishingSpot, SpearfishingItem, AquariumFish, CollectablesShopItem (+ linked sheets for reward details), probably others missed
- Compile that data into a CSV file for upload
- Update the fishing data on fish pages
- Make semantic tables on the Fishing Log pages
- Make related templates
- Make semantic tables on the Big Fish page
- Make related templates
Preliminary List of Parameters/Properties and Categories
Parameters
| Parameter | Data |
|---|---|
| name | Fish Name |
| icon | Item icon image |
| item-description | item description |
| log-description | fishing log description |
| gathering | Gathering Requirement |
| time-start | Start of window |
| time-end | End of window |
| weather-previous | delimited list |
| weather-current | delimited list |
| intuition | Fisher's Intuition - [delimited list of "# fish name"] |
| bite | Bite Strength† - !/!!/!!! |
| lure-action | Patience Hookset/Powerful Hookset or Modest Lure/Ambitious Lure (weak, strong) |
| lure-message | Modest Lure/Ambitious Lure + Required Lure Message |
| preferred-bait | Preferred Bait† - if mooch, list the mooch fish and the prereqs for that mooch fish |
| allowed-bait | Other Allowed Bait |
| release | Patch Release (currently on the infobox; could stay here) |
| legendary-type | Fishing Rarity - Normal (default), Big Fish, Legendary Fish, Fabled Legendary Fish |
| habitat | Fishing Type - Freshwater, Saltwater, Sand, Sky, Clouds, Magma, Aetherochemical, Salt Lake, Space, Spearfishing, Ocean Fishing, Spectral Ocean Fishing |
| is-swimbait | Is Mooch Bait flag (might have better name for this; can ask fishing community) |
| gives-intuition | Gives Intuition flag (for getting Fisher's Intuition) |
| is-collectable | Collectable flag |
| collectability | Collectability score |
| scrip-value | <-- not sure if we want this here or if this can be put on the Collectable Appraiser page instead |
| ocean-fishing-value | Value for ocean vishing score |
| is-spectral | Is a fish that can trigger Spectral Currents for Ocean Fishing |
| req-snagging | Snagging Required flag |
| req-intuition | Is Intuition Fish (might have better name for this) |
| req-tome | Requires a Tome of Ichthyological Folklore |
| req-other | Fish that require a specific quest or rod ("quest:QUESTNAME" or "rod:FISHINGROD") |
| length | Size - min-max |
| desynth-results | Desynth |
| fishing-level | Fishing Level |
| canvas-size | Canvas Size (S, M, L, XL) |
| aquarium-type | Aquarium Type (freshwater, saltwater, none) |
| aquarium-image | Image file for fish in aquarium |
| spearfish-size | Icon Size - small/medium/large |
| spearfish-speed | Swim Speed - slow/average/fast/very fast (might be better terms; check FruitySnacks guides) |
| eph-node-spawned | If this fish is used to spawn an ephemeral node, list it; else null |
| id-edb | EDB link |
| id-gt | TC/GT link |
| video-link | FruitySnacks video guide link (Carby has this) |
| id-cp ?? | Look into links for CarbunclePlushy - I don't think we can do this |
Parameters for Fishing Log pages:
| prime-loc | Primary Fishing Spot flag (yes/no; default yes) |
Categories:
- [expansion] Fish
- [expansion] Big Fish / Big Fish
- [expansion] Legendary Fish / Legendary Fish
- Fabled Legendary Fish
- Collectable Fish (?)
- Custom Delivery Fish (?)